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  • #31
    IDquotem , Yes , the banning should be a last resort. I don.t like the banning ideea either , but like it or not it looks like a viable solution. A 24h ban with reason "siege farm abuse" wil make for sure a endgame player to think better at what he.s doing.

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    • IDquotem
      IDquotem commented
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      Though I admit, banning could be a viable solution IF it were able to keep the endgame players from abusing the siege battles, I'm not sure that a 24h ban would work. Sieges last 2 days with Armistice thrown in. That means you'd almost have to implement a 48h ban and deny them the ENTIRE siege because they would just come in on the second day of the siege and go about power farming as usual. And, I'm not even sure that a 48h ban would deter a power farming endgamer from continuing to abuse the system. They'd just shrug and say "What's one siege." The amount of time a ban covers would almost have to increase for every time the endgame player gets caught abusing the siege. I still think the reduction of crystals by tier and changing the 30 monster rule to 10 battles total is still the best bet to cutting down on power farming. Still, it's hard to say...

    • Calmar7905
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      I posted te com2us rules , first ban 3 days , second a week , third permanent. If they insist on stupidity ...

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    • #33
      just make a Crystal cap which depends an your Guild rank (g3 higher Crystal cap than g2, g2 higher than g1, and so on)

      at the Moment they can get 1020 Crystals in a g1 win with 30% contribution. Cap the maximum at for example 500 crystals and distribute the other 520 Crystals within the other Players below 500 crystals - so the filler accounts (inactive or newbies) will also get a fair share

      banning would also help, but i think the support has enough to do with stolen accounts/Bugs etc. If they have to Control thousands of excessive farmer it will prolong more important issues

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      • er0L
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        Calmar7905

        if you want to rank high and go for g2 siege or Play a high rank g1 you need around 4-5 People who can score 10% contribution - I played high rank g1/g2 siege but it was to early for me. Our Guild had 5 People who could regulary could score 8+ wins

      • Sinsemilla
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        so the filler accounts (inactive or newbies) will also get a fair share
        Though what exactly is a fair share to someone who contributed absolutely nothing?

      • er0L
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        Sinsemilla

        you have to see it more like a punishment for using filler accounts ^^

    • #34
      er0L , look at this : Click image for larger version  Name:	Screenshot_20190122-175515_Summoners War.jpg Views:	1 Size:	423.3 KB ID:	1842344 only 2 pass over 10% contribution and this at C3 , even is they had enaf deff succesfull to pass over 10% ca happens only if you have mates who don.t atack : Click image for larger version  Name:	Screenshot_20190122-175528_Summoners War.jpg Views:	1 Size:	430.7 KB ID:	1842345Click image for larger version  Name:	Screenshot_20190122-175539_Summoners War.jpg Views:	1 Size:	429.9 KB ID:	1842346 you can see this at c3 rank not at high g1 becouse if u have 9 who didn.t atack , from 25 then your guild will not stay high g1.
      This beeing sayed , i give credit to you that rewards should be shared inside guild even with the mates who did 0 contribution. Someone can say is not fair to give rewards to who did 0 contribution , but it is fair to do 0 contribution becouse they have to fight endgame players in their low rank ? Is fair to alow to a McLaren F1 to compete in Fiat Panda's class ??? legit question -.-"

      P.S. My mate with 14% contrib had 15 deff succesfull , second with 10.2% had 9 deff succesfull , and me and the other mate with 9.9% had 5 deff succesfull , this at C3 rank 1800 where we drop after last siege lost with 0 (zero) contribution all the guild. Probably those endgame players had like 600 deff succesfull in 4 :-)
      Last edited by Calmar7905; 01-22-2019, 09:21 AM.

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      • #35
        Just make a rank multiplier for both crystals and guild points and its (should be) DONE!

        Because you know its is rather stupid that at lower ranks its actually possible to get "way" more crystals compared to higher ranks when you count in contribution

        So its either ...

        a) reduce contribution cap based on ranks (F, C, G)

        b) rank multiplier for both crystals and guild points
        Last edited by Puntar64; 01-22-2019, 09:27 AM.

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        • Calmar7905
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          @ Puntar64 Thank you , i add your sugestions at main post.

      • #36
        This kind of farming is very toxic for the game. It's unfair to everyone including low rank players and late game players. 100% needs to be fixed immediately.

        It's your choice to farm at low level to make your life easier, but that should be it instead of getting huge amount of crystals on top of a easier life.
        Last edited by Lyonloi; 01-23-2019, 01:15 PM.

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        • #37
          And here we have Weeb | Nation :
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          • #38
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            For the moment they didn.t overdo and alow us to argue with the third guild (dynamite) so i hope my mates will do some minimum contribution.
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            • #39
              My bad to hope they will give us a minimum chance of contribution .... noob i am... Click image for larger version

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ID:	1843142 This is the tipical endgame player who farm in low rank and want to be called "god" :-)))))) no **** :-))))

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              • #40
                Keep them screens coming Calmar7905 that this gets fixed

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                • er0L
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                  Calmar7905

                  sorry, but what? ^^

                • Calmar7905
                  Calmar7905 commented
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                  er0L i'll keep screens coming , update and don.t give up ;-)

                • IDquotem
                  IDquotem commented
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                  Indeed, please DO keep these screens coming! Hopefully, somebody at Admin will FINALLY take note and review the suggestions given here. Even better, would be if they actually LISTEN and do something about this. So, yes, keep it coming!

              • #41
                I understand the issue, but it's not always just people maliciously farming.

                I'm in a mid G1 guild (400-800 in siege), but I honestly should be in G3 siege. However, I'm in the mid G1 guild because it's a guild with all of the friends I've made throughout my time in this game. I'm not there to harvest crystals, but I won't say that I don't get a lot from siege because all of my defenses are anywhere from a 40-82% win rate (with 50-300+ battles).

                It is a HARD issue to fix.

                People talk about crystal sharing, but that promotes laziness reaping rewards from the people who put forth more effort or the fact that some people can clear out defenses that lower end people would otherwise waste all of their attacks on, leaving weaker defenses behind to the lower player.

                People talk about individuals inside the guild affecting the match making, which I think would change nothing because outside of maybe the top 300 guilds, you will find people of all sorts of progression mixed throughout guilds. I believe you will just end up fighting the same battles you are now. A guild with three G3 players and a bunch of challenger level people are likely to end up fighting a bunch of fighter level people, who again would struggle with the G3s. Matchmaking is also difficult because it's also two other opponents.

                People talk about capping crystals based on placement or a hard cap overall, but in reality if those guardian level people join a guardian guild, all players are active and the split is still either less or negligible. Should they get 10-20% in a g1 guild or 3-4% in a g3 guild? Not to mention the defenses you're fighting in g3 are drastically better. I don't think this solution does anything.

                You can even make it to where higher level ranking guilds in siege get drastically better rewards, which draws in the siege farmers, but then you have lower ranked players complaining that it furthers the gap between them and the end gamers.

                Like I said, it's a haaaard issue to fix and honestly, I have no idea for a valid solution.
                Last edited by Sinsemilla; 01-30-2019, 10:58 PM.

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                • #42
                  I think the problem with the siege farmers, namely the ones you are posting about, is that they are malicious.

                  You don't need to cut a guild's points to win a siege. I would be perfectly happy winning every siege 20000/19999/19999. Cutting off a guild is just a straight douche move. From your posts, you were getting ~10% contribution. You would have gotten a nice reward had the other guild not fought with malicious intent, regardless of them having some G3 farmers.

                  I personally never and I have asked my guild members to never cut guilds off unless they purposely set themselves up for it. Those farmers you've been posting about could have very well taken all of your front line bases and left them either empty or filled with trash defenses. They would have won safely regardless because it's unlikely that they would ever lose a base.

                  I think the issue here is less about "siege farmers" and more about the attitudes of the people behind the farming.

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                  • Calmar7905
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                    Is true , the bad attitude of many endgame siege farmers is the cherry on top of the cookie. Power bring coruption , absolute power bring absolute coruption.
                    In almost 6/8 months this farming phenomen fully show himself we meet only 2 farming guilds who allowed us to do contribution. They told us they will take 3 from owr towers and put low deffs on them. Was 25 in siege in my guild and we all did 5 atacks win each with 4% contrib each. Everybody was happy.
                    I don.t care if we fight and loose a siege , i realy don.t care if there are players who get 1000 crystals for siege , i care when i see 90% from my guild mates doing 0 contribution even if they try

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                  And another siege farming guild :
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                  • #44
                    And another one :
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                    • #45
                      2 weeks ago we (my friends and I) created a new guild, trying to avoid inctives and G1-G3 players farming at lower G1 high C3 guilds (since we came from an almost G2 guild and siege there was a hell full of g3 players) guess what, as soon as we reached to C1 we are just fighting a G1 guy, they are about to cut us. We've been rejecting C2-G3 players for 2 weeks, since they wanted to join us to farm us. This game is ret***ed.

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