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A Guide to Rune MinMaxing: (Hopefully) All You Need to Know
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(Guide writer, SW enthusiast ) Glory shop guide: http://forum.com2us.com/forum/mainf...uneedtoknow . Rune minmax guide: http://forum.com2us.com/forum/mainf...uneedtoknow . ToA F100 guide: http://forum.com2us.com/forum/mainf...uneedtoknow
The charts have been updated with colorcoding and fixes. The SW wiki has a lot more errors than I initially found out, so I eventually went to every friend and arena top 20 to verify the numbers. The values should be 99.9% correct, and any different analyses that resulted have been modified on the FAQ.
Apologies again!
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Thanks for the guide. Really helpful =)
Just noticed something about the violent rune explanation though.
Isnt the 4% chance for 2 extra attacks already part of the 20% coz the 1st extra attack is a prerequisite for the rest of the extra attacks?
So chances for extra attacks would not be 20%+4%+x+y+z%=25%
It would be 20% covering all extra attacks from 1 to z. (16%+3.2%+0.64%+... = 20%)
16% for exactly 1 extra attack (4% for successive)
3.2% for exactly 2 extra attacks (0.8% for successive)
0.64% for exactly 3 attacks (0.0512% for successive)
Etc
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Oh. It's just that 80% of the attacks shouldn't get any extra turn. 80 and 25 doesnt add up. So the 4% chance of 2 extra turns is a subset already of the 20%.
Like of the 20 out of 100 attacks that gets 1 extra turn, 4 of these will get another extra turn. So the 4 is taken out of the 20, not from the remaining 80.

amazing work from Abs01ut3. lose word of compliment for it...
really appreciate your effort. thank you very much.
by the way can i ask a very simple question. what does minmax mean?
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Minmax is a term used when you want to maximize your player's strength by moving resource away to them. By minimizing your mistakes and maximizing your strength, you'll create the strongest character possible, given your limitations.
Example is in RPG game, you're usually given a fixed number of stat to allocate as you please. If you pick magic classes you'll want to maximize strength (number of spells you can cast, your intelligence, etc) by taking points away from your health, armor, etc. This results in a very focused class that is the best magician possible by proper resource allocation.Last edited by Abs01ut3; 10012014, 06:14 AM.


I have a silly question.
When doing Giant (At auto mode: B6, manual: B7  just to clarify, i dont want to "Imp" it), when i get a Despair, its more common to drop Rune number 1 and 3. Im struggling to get a Rune number 6! Its just my bad luck, or anything else, like other maps where each stage drop the designated rune?
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Abs01ut3, you created a damn good guide, very detaily. But can you make it more clearly in "flat stats". As far as i understand, it means +% stats?
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Ok so about the swift rune set, does it stack with speed leader passive?lets say 25%set effect + tyron's 19% speed leader passive =44% major speed boost,. Great guide by the way!
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Many thanks to you, Abs01ut3. I think this is the most analitic and sistematic guide using simple math ratio that I've ever read. I've never thought that a game need such mathematical explanation but you have enlightened me in such awesome way. I will wait for more guide from you and this is a must sticky guide. Once again, thank you veeeeery muuuch !!
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nice guides i want to ask something, i have Kaito with base speed (103), rune slot 2 (31), substat all rune (23), if i'm following your formula, i have total 157 speed, if i use swift rune 25% speed, 25% + 157 = 196.25. But why it show me i only got 103 + 80 = 183 speed?
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Originally posted by OvaX View Postnice guides i want to ask something, i have Kaito with base speed (103), rune slot 2 (31), substat all rune (23), if i'm following your formula, i have total 157 speed, if i use swift rune 25% speed, 25% + 157 = 196.25. But why it show me i only got 103 + 80 = 183 speed?
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