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  • v4.0.9 Update Notice

    v4.0.9 Update Notice

    Hi, it's Com2uS!




    Summoners War v4.0.9 has been updated.

    Please check below for details!




    * The actual update will be applied through an auto update during the maintenance. (Android/iOS)

    * Details can be checked through the maintenance notice.




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    v4.0.9 Update Details

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    ▶ Bug Fixes

    - Fixed the issue of the Immemorial Magic Power (Despair) rune effect not being applied properly in the battles against the Ruler of Labyrinth (Tartarus).
    - Fixed the issue of the status effect being applied to the boss Ath'taros on 100F of the Trial of Ascension

  • #2
    Fixing bugs is nice and all, but how about this:


    Fix those damn Violent runes


    They make fights too luck dependant, not fun, infuriating. Losing a fight does lot leave the player feeling "If I had better monsters and runes I would have won", instead they leave them feeling "If I had better luck I would have won". While winning a fight due to lucky procs leaves them feeling durty, They did not won because their team is better they won because their luck was better. Not to mention the vast majority of monsters are regularly build with Violent runes because that's just the far superior option in most cases.

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    • #3
      Why do Violent runes even exist in the first place?


      To add uncertainty to a battle?
      There is planty of uncertainty already, will an attack land as a critical or will an attack apply it's added effects, this has a great influence over the battle already, however the player knows what to expect and when to expect it. Violent runes add too much uncertainty meaning at any point all efforts by either side in the current battle can be undone without a warning.

      To make battles more fun or interesting?
      It has the exact opposite effect. When the enemy gets a vio proc the player feels frustrated. When the player gets a vio proc they feel they should have gotten more. On very rare occasions there will be a battle where the player will feel satisfied after winning a battle with the help of Violent procs.

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      • #4
        Some options to consider:


        Completely remove violent runes from the game (However I doubt that will ever happen);

        Implement the Real Time Arena changes globally. Being allowed only one proc per turn is a huge difference. This should make guild war and siege a lot less luck dependant. Another change to consider is preventing Violent runes from procing for multiple turns in a row. That way we can avoid situations like the Unicorns entering a loop of using skill-procing-transforming-using skill-procing-transforming-using skill-etc. or situations like Verad continuously having one of his freeze skills off cooldown or Situations like Chasun using Fallen Blossoms every other turn.


        This isn't simply my observation, this is what most players I've interacted with for four years agree on. Violent runes are a problem that needs to be addressed if the game is to last for many years to come.


        -IBltchAboutVioRunes

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        • Elsarylai
          Elsarylai commented
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          Uhmm theres too much possibilities duhh and vio runes are important. You just have to rune them right. You can outsmart Monsters with vio runes like a time where I did 6 2 turns continuous damage and then the dragon Procd and then it died. Violent runes are good in the game, you just need brains.

      • #5
        IBltchAboutVioRunes How many of your mons are on Violent, I wonder?

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        • IBltchAboutVioRunes
          Editing a comment
          The vast majority obviously, like I stated above they are the far superior option most of the time. If I want to stay competitive I have no other choice, however that does not mean I am content with the situation.

      • #6
        Event page banner just url and can't be click. So i cant get the reward

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        • #7
          I wonder if the changes from [Notice] v4.0.8 Update Notice will be happening in next lab rotation...

          according to the notice..
          Now, many of you are probably wondering how these points will be implemented to the game. First, we'll be improving the labyrinth via two updates. The balancing modification will be carried out via v4.0.8 update, and the overall flow of labyrinth will be improved via v4.0.9 update (planned to be released on late September)
          We have the v4.0.9 update now... so... ?

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          • Hesekiel
            Hesekiel commented
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            Second this.

        • #8
          please have Beta testing on your major content patches, Elsharion, skill up bug. how do you even screw that up?! like every usable monster has skill ups, even 1* mons

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          • #9
            Could you please add some info on the labyrinth balances which originally should arrive via 4.0.9 as BDT already mentioned? It is hard enough to motivate your average casual guildie to take another serious attempt in the labs after the huge letdown it originally was.. the changes in 4.0.8 helped as at least some guildies see process against the minibosses now, however I expected the final balance changes to arrive soon in order to not let that short motivation boost go in vain.

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            • #10
              Serious question for Com2Us. WTF is the point of having 10 levels of dungeons? 12 straight times on B8, B9, and B10...nothing but BS low essence and worthless unknown scrolls. Why waste time and energy on the upper levels when you have no chance of mid or high essence?

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              • Nat6Summoner
                Nat6Summoner commented
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                What's the point of playing a heavy farming game if you dont have patience and understanding on RNG ... you're already complaining on only 12 runs meanwhile other players already did 500+ runs to awaken their monsters

              • Hesekiel
                Hesekiel commented
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                Serious question for Blackwolf 0322, what has your rant to do with the posted update notice?

            • #11
              Nat6Summoner, 1.) the 12 runs is just a current example. I’ve made far more than 500. 2.) how much does Com2Us pay you as an employee? 3.) my question is legitimate question that countless other players ask in-game over and over. So we have a right to get an answer from Com2US and deserve it. 4.) Patience and understanding are not the issue. The issue is that the programming and methodology do not make sense nor are they logical. 5.) I personally believe Com2Us are not only scamming players but also censoring them, I.E. messing with the accounts of players critical to them in public such as here. 6.) I have as much a right to comment and to question Com2Us as you do. So why do you care? Why are you so offended by my questioning? Why so defensive? What does it matter to you? Are you an employee or just a typical left-wing European-style socialist that thinks free speech only applies to the people who think and feel like you?

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              • Nat6Summoner
                Nat6Summoner commented
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                1. If you have made more than 500 runs then you should have understand how rng works by now
                2. Even if I did work for them, its not worth my time to explain how RNG
                3. Yea sure ... legitimate questions lol ... you want an answer? Study probability in math class .. even com2us cannot explain RNG
                4. Good job mentioning logic in an RNG game... with that kind of thinking you are also saying Casinos are Logical ways on making money ... which isnt the case
                5. Evidence?
                6.. Why are you so offended with my reply? Yea you're right ... why did I bother wasting my time on you ... free speech lol but apparently you denied my right on my own right on free speech

                You have good ways of communication ill give you that but with the wrong reasoning and understanding... that skill is horribly wasted

            • #12
              Originally posted by Blackwolf0322 View Post
              Serious question for Com2Us. WTF is the point of having 10 levels of dungeons? 12 straight times on B8, B9, and B10...nothing but BS low essence and worthless unknown scrolls. Why waste time and energy on the upper levels when you have no chance of mid or high essence?
              here's a serious question to you.... if you find SW, such a BS in all ways, why are you still playing the game ?

              if you hate most part (all u do is rant) .. why still stay in forum?

              seriously, there are lots better game out there.... do yourself a favor, quit

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              • #13
                Nat6Summoner , I am head of security for a blockchain company. I have forgotten more about statistics and probability than you will likely ever now. I highly recommend you consider studying something other than Wikipedia. And, you question reasoning and understanding? Interesting! That’s actually a very close definition to the term Logic. One normally studies logic around the same time they study stats and probabilities. Also ethics so think about the reasoning for that. And casinos? Really bro? Lol Here are some apples and oranges for you to play with. Enjoy!

                And as far as your free speech goes, by all means bless us all with your truly enlightening free speech. Your blind faith in game developers and ignorance of actual game theory and mathematics is amusing to many.

                But let’s do talk about evidence. May as well be you cause Com2Us doesn’t have the guts to discuss it publicly. I’m currently running 4 accounts. This one that intentionally challenges the developers and three others utilizing exactly the same strategy except for one is a pay to play account. The comparisons so far are staggeringly suspicious for our industry. Pretty cool pet project I think but that’s just me. Anyway, since you are so concerned and defensive of Com2Us, let’s let you speak for them for the time being. Let’s humor other players that bother to read through these threads. In your opinion, is integrity of the game system, ie code/logarithms/programming/marketing/etc, is the integrity of the system not of any concern to the consumers? Really? You take your time and dig hard for a thorough answer.

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                • Hesekiel
                  Hesekiel commented
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                  "The comparisons so far are staggeringly suspicious for our industry."

                  Regular approach in any scientific discipline: - a) post methodology and setup b) post results c) conclude and discuss.

                  Approach as a head of security for a blockchain company, apparently: - forego a) and b), fast forward to c). d) accuse anybody not immediately agreeing with you to be a C2Us employee or a socialist.

                  You could just link to a statistic of your four accounts, could even anonymize everything to keep them hidden, just to provide anything of value to your claim. I am ready to discuss your claims as I am sure are many others, but just pointing to some secret evidence only you have acess to is not working.

              • #14
                BigDaddyToe , do yourself a favor and avoid thought provoking conversations and debates. Your contribution in your previous post was exactly...well zero. Unless you are an employee of Com2Us, you really shouldnt try to speak for them. Asking Com2Us legitimate questions about their product in a civil manner has historically resulted in exactly ZERO responses. That alone, at least to me, speaks to the integrity of their system. Thus, leading me, as a consumer, to question the integrity of the product I am consuming.

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                • Nat6Summoner
                  Nat6Summoner commented
                  Editing a comment
                  Blah blah blah .. this guy thinks he’s the only one educated here .. but clearly he doesnt grasp the very basics of luck ... i wouldnt bother wasting another time with this guy ... at least I and Bigdaddytoe enjoys the game even it is sometimes frustating

                • xaviertkk
                  xaviertkk commented
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                  Nat6Summoner , BigDaddyToe , let's save our breath to discuss/chat with others whom are also enjoying the game. different freq simply will not come come to terms.

              • #15
                This game rocks so quiet up when it comes to change the whole game or ill be mad at com2us, this game works fine the farming gets what you need, and its so much fun to fight other peoples monsters, deal wit it

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